tv Piers Morgan Live CNN August 7, 2013 6:00pm-7:01pm PDT
:we ran out of time for "the ridiculist." sorry about that. sorry about that. piers morgan live starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers around the united states and around the world. breaking news, a race against time, a search for a killer and two missing children. we have breaking news on the man haunt and i'll talk to the father of the former kidnap victim about these anxious hours. gone for good, ariel castro's house of horrors reduced to rubble. ma michelle knight, how are she and the other women doing.
and the deadly details on the python attack. disturbing photos showing the brothers in a snake cage. and gone to pot, america's marijuana obsession, takes a surprising turn on the nation's capital and here at cnn. dr. sanjay gupta fills us in and has a surprising revelation of his own. we begin with breaking news on the massive manhunt for james dimaggo. there was a car spotted in northern california. law enforcement officers from multiple agencies on the lookout for the vehicle. disturbing vehicle, the champed remains found inside the home of dimaggio are consistent of an 8-year-old boy, the same age of ethan. welcome to you jane. >> thank you. >> awful story, this. >> horrible. >> it would seem the logical assumption from what we're now learning is that possibly the
mother, christine anderson and this 8-year-old boy ethan may have died in the fire at the house that belonged to dimaggio and he's on the loose somewhere with the daughter, hanna anderson, who is 16. >> yeah and there is breaking news. there were two possible sightings, one is discounted but piers, another possible sighting in oregon. a business owner saw a car that looked like the suspect vehicle. wrote down the license plate. they are following that up. it's tenuous at this point but reason for hope. the bottom line, piers, this guy, this 40-year-old man apparently had a crush on the 16-year-old daughter, the stunning beautiful 5'7", 115 pound, blue eyed, blonde hair daughter of his good friends and according to police, killed the mother, killed, it's believed, they haven't identified the body but consistent with the 8-year-old son, set the house on fire and took off with this
beautiful young woman who expressed to her friends, this is the secret coming out, piers, she told her friends that she was creeped out by uncle jim. that's what they called him, uncle jim, because he had revealed that he had a crush on her. he was infatuated with her. >> just to put it in context, he had known the family, i think, since these children were born. >> yeah. >> so very, very close to them and a huge betrayal, if that's indeed what happened here. great concern for the safety of hanna. i think we have a clip here of her father making an emotional appeal earlier today for his daughter and indeed talking directly to her. >> i can't fathom what you were thinking. the damage is done. i'm begging you to let my daughter go. you've taken everything else. hanna, we all love you very much. if you have a chance, you take
it. you run. you'll be found. >> the father of missing hanna anderson and obviously, we have unconfirmed reports about what happened to his son, ethan, but he's believed to have lost his life in that house fire. to remind any viewers because it's a national manhunt, probably the biggest in america now a blue four-door nissan versa 6 wc 6986 license plate and sightings in california. another one in oregon they are taking very seriously at the moment. please, if you have information, contact the authorities. this amber alert, jane, it's a pretty successful operation because there is a very high success rate in tracking people who are put out there as an amber alert. >> yes, and everybody pretty much hears about it because it's on the freeways and you see the big signs and have alerts where people can get the alerts on their cell phones.
the thing is about this man is you look at photos of him, he is clearly emotional stunted. he's a 40-year-old man, wants to hang out with a 16-year-old. right there that shows something is wrong, and he's a trojan horse that came in because the dad, the anderson family's, the father of the family had to leave and go across the skocoun for work. he felt secure the family friend would be there to care for the wife and kids. he insinuates himself into the family, and what is interesting is his ex-wife says he had developed an obsession with video games very, very childish video games he would play obsess sievely, one of the reasons she left him. a guy that's emotional stunted that can't relate to people his own age and becomes obsessed with a 16-year-old girl, a family friend and the big question was he spotted doing something with the girl and something exploded spontaneously or did he plan this out? >> what we do know is he
believed that he may be about to lose his home and that may have been the catalyst for the kind of mental state that he was in. i repeat to viewers, he is believed to be very dangerous. call 911 or anyone with specific information about the case is asked to call the san diego county sheriff's department, 85 8-974, the longer this goes on do you get a better sense of forboding what may have happened to hanna. >> i do especially if she's terrified having seen what happened to possibly her mother and kid brother and she's in the clutches of this man. her dad said run. and i would repeat that. if you're watching, if you're in some motel room somewhere, hanna, find the moment and run. get the heck out of there and jim dimaggio if you are watching, i'll tell you leave her. leave her anymore, at a rest
stop, 711 and just keep going but let her go. >> thank you very much indeed. >> thank you. ariel castro's home, what is left of it. very little, in fact. the three women he held captive for a decade won't forget the horror but they won't have to see that house anymore. crew took apart 2207 seymore avenue. they reduced to the rubble. among those watching was michelle knight who spent a decade. the healing will take years but joining me outside castro's house a reporter for woio and lydia knows the family of gina dejesus. a symbolic day today, the removal of any sign of this house of horrors. >> reporter: it was indeed some bo -- symbolic, the first person that took a swipe out of the house, one of the survivors, it
was her aunt who was in that bulldozer of sorts and took a whack out of that house and she said it was so -- it was so freeing and she wanted to release the evil out of this neighborhood. for her, it was so great and as soon as she got out of the machine, she was hugging gina's mom. it was an emotional time for the families and everybody in this neighborhood watching the home come down. >> michelle knight, the only one of the three victims of this appalling atrotsty there today. she released balloons outside the house and spoke movingly at the scene. let's watch what she said. >> i want the people out there to know, including the mothers, that they can have strength and hope and their child will come back. >> what was extraordinary lydia is that ariel castro forfeited this house as part of the plea deal and was reported to burst into tears as he signed off the deed because he said and i'm
gotting here from what he's believed to tell the authorities, there were so many good memories in that house, a quite extraordinary delusion on his part. >> reporter: clearly you see how delusional he was because the first chance they got to break out, amanda berry took that chance when her daughter said daddy is gone. evidently his opinion of what was going on in that house was far different from the three women in there because amanda wasted in time getting out of the house and tells police there was still two more people inside the home. listen, the neighbors here were part of that rescue when she came out and one of the neighbors tell me when michelle came and thanked her, she couldn't believe michelle remembered her. she almost fell to her knees and cried because michelle is just 4'7" and such a big personality, has such a big heart and she is such a good example of how you can fight evil and just go the
opposite way and pretty much throw it in his face that you're not going to put me down. >> finally, what will happen to the sites of this former house? is it going to be kept empty? will they build new property there? >> they are talking about possibly a garden, the girls would like to see a garden. the neighbors would like to see maybe a play ground for some of the kids, anyway to remember good positive things, is what they want, maybe an angel there with the yard. but right now it's going to be blocked off. they will seed it. they won't let anybody on there to get dirt and get sorted memory from that place, but hopefully, something goodwill come out of it and knowing how this neighborhood feels, i think the city will move pretty quickly. my sources tell me, they will move very quickly to make that a positive site for everyone. >> lydia ed spsparraesparra, thy much indeed.
elizabeth smart was kidnapped from her home and rescued nine months later. ed smart, it's obviously very different kind of story but at the same time you-all have gone through all the emotions, both as the father of a young woman who was kidnapped and the cleveland there and this awful story of these two missing children, one believed to be a 16-year-old girl. what is your reaction, first of all, to the scenes in cleveland? sg >> you know, i think it's a wonderful way of putting this all behind and starting to move forward. i think for the women, it would probably always be a reminder of a very bad nightmare that they lived in, so to demolish it, i think that's wonderful and to hear -- i mean, for the whole neighborhood, i think to say, you know, this was a bad thing. it wasn't our fault and put it behind and move forward. i think that's a great way of dealing with it. >> and given --
>> having it turned into a park or something else is a wonderful idea. >> given the awful experience that you had to endure as a father, and it ended obviously happily for you but ends disastrously for so many, given that it ended well and has done for these three victims in cleveland, what is the best advice you would give them and their families around them for how they can make a proper recovery? >> well, you know, i think everyone's journey through that recovery is different. you might find some that become very outspoken, want to help others. others just want to put it behind and start moving forward and basical lally evaporate froe publ public's eye. it's very important to respect perspectives on how they do it and let them take that moment to, you know, find their own
way. i mean, when you talk with everyone, there is never a one fits all type of thing, and i think one of the most important things that we can do as the public is to respect their privacy. i think that's one of the most important things. if they decide to go public and to be out in the public, that the one thing. but i think to give them their space is very, very important. you know, many people don't ever want to be known for, you know, this horrible thing that has happened, and i respect that. i mean, everyone just handles things so completely different. but the important thing is that we as members of a society respect that, respect them and give them their space and i feel that the way everything has been handled so far is really great. you know, i know when elizabeth came home, i was so grateful that she wasn't hounded, that, you know, she had her space. she was able to reconnect with
her friends, and move forward, and that's how each one of them will be able to, if we give them the space and the opportunity. you know, certainly, we were always so thankful for prayers and thoughtfulness of so many people wanting to help, and, you know, in the end, i feel like, you know, absolutely those prayers were answered and that help has been incredible in elizabeth moving forward. >> obviously -- >> that's something. >> obviously the cleveland story with your own horrific, as it was, ended happily with their recovery. we have this on going situation of this california amber alert and it is believed now that the mother may have also died with the 8-year-old boy, the young brother and that this man is now on the loose, dimaggio with hanna anderson, 16.
what can you say to the family, the father, he's obviously in your position of not knowing where his daughter is, what happened to her. you've been in that position. what can you say to him? >> you know, my -- my advice is to stay positive and to, you know, just keep the pressure on. i think the amber alert is a fantastic tool, and the importance of it is keeping his daughter's picture out there, and being out there, keeping that picture out there. you know, i don't think there is a better tool for law enforcement and those associated in trying to find children than the public's eye. i mean, it the bottom line. in our case, certainly, it was. it was the two people that spotted mitchell at the same time that finally brought elizabeth home to us. i think there is someone out there that will see something, and the importance of understanding, you know, this
vehicle, this versa nissan, four-door blue with license plate is something everyone needs to keep their eyes open to. i can't tell you as a parent, i think the amber alert is the first line of defense for a child that's missing that information has been collected. so i think it is something outstanding and i would recommend that father supporting and making sure that he's out there as he has been to keep her face out there. >> ed smart, thank you for joining me. appreciate it. new photographs of the two children killed by a snake while at a sleep over. what did they reveal about the deadly attack. i'll ask jeff corwin coming up next. if there was a pill to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite.
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and some more breaking news just in on the story we brought you yesterday. r and b super star usher release add statement about his son's near drowning in a swimming pool. he said i'm blessed and fortunate to say that my son usher the fifth is dog well and is recovering. i am overwhelmed by outpouring of prayers, love and support for my families well being. i would like to thank my aunt and the nurses who are working with us around the clock. i would especially like to thank the two men who saved my son's life, they are true heroes. the two children that died from the python.
a photograph shows the two boys in what appears to be a snake cage. an autopsy performed on the boys shows they died from affixation. the investigation is going on into what happened tonight but joining me tonight is the host of "ocean mysteries" jeff corwin. more and more information has kind of seeped out over the last 24 hours, and it would appear these boys are on a sleep over were in the same apartment as the cage, which was keeping this python and it escaped. is that your understanding of what happened here? >> from the sounds of it, it comes across as a tragic recipe of disaster. this is a powerful reptile. this is one of the longest and strongest and biggest snakes on the planet, and they are a predator in the african savannah where they live and they don't belong in the presence of young children.
>> do you believe that it is certain that it's the python that has killed these children? i only ask that because there is some local speculation that it may be too hasty to reach that conclusion despite the autopsy saying it was affixation. is it the kind of thing that that kind of african rock python would do if it got out of the cage and found itself near two young boys like that? >> well, in the wild scenario, the ecosystem where this species live, they are aggressive because there are predators out there that eat pythons. they is a snake, this particular snake was probably big enough to eat a small antelope. but human beings aren't usually on the food chain or diet of these animals. in fact, in the last 10 or 15 years there is only one account
of a human being killed by on african rock python. it is illegal to keep large snakes like this and in massachusetts where i live you need a specialized license to keep the animals to protect the animals and people. they are powerful, powerful creatures. >> in terms of this particular type of python, you have a python with you that's not the african rock python but when i did the show with you we had a big python that day. i was struck by the close proximity and sheer power. i wouldn't want to be near one without somebody like you, an expert, in control of it. somebody anybody have these kind of things in a home environment? >> i think it's only in specialized situations should private citizens have large snakes like this. and particularly like educational institutions that specialize in teaching about snakes, i think there is a valid reason in that regard.
right here in my hand what i'm showing you is this very, very large snake. and you can see it right here. this is a python, a snake pushing upwards to 12 feet long, weighs about 100 pounds. it would be similar in size and girth and strength to the species of snake, and appearance that attacked and killed the boys this is known for being moo more docile so i can handle it with less concern but i never forget what this is, it's a powerful predator. i brought along with me, as well, this skull. this is a skull of a snake similar to the size to the one in canada and you can see it's armed with those incredibly sharp teeth, and that's what this snake uses to latch on to it's pray and then begin the constriction process. it can happen incredibly quickly. when this snake grabs onto the pray and wraps around it, unless
it's an expert, that pray doesn't really stand a chance to escape this perfect design for taking out your pray. >> right. awful story. let turn quickly, jeff, i mean, another story that made the headlines today, got a lot of activity on twitter and facebook, i noticed. it's the cover of the "guardian" nope showing a polar bear in the arctic we should starve to death. the significant being believed he died from a lack of sea ice to hunt seals and 2012 is one of the warmest years recorded and the 2012 was the lowest level of sea ice in the record and this bear was examined by scientists in april, appeared to be healthy and is now dead and they are linking it directly to the low levels of sea ice. are we now seeing some of the more deadly effects of global warming on the wildlife in the arctic? >> it is -- piers, it's very
quite possible. i have spent a lot of time up in the arctic studying and working with these bears. these are creatures that are designed to survive on ice. but ice is not only a place where they are able to live, they need ice for their survival. even though they are bears, we actually classified them as marine mammals because they have the ability to swim tremendous distances, but even these bears are now drowning because the paice that lasts from one decade to the next melted back so much, they now enter a new world kpun plored, a waterily deadly world and they need the ice. they will sit there, piers, above a blowhole and wait for the sale to come up and take a breathe and with an arm so powerful, they will reach through the blowhole in ice this thick and pull out a seal this wide through that hole. the problem is that they don't have the ice, they can't survive. it's very likely we may be looking at the first of our c
species to face kpings. the ice continues to melt and these creature wills disappear and they are the canary in the coal mine for this habitat. >> thank you for joining me, as always. the battle of pot. should it be legal? surprising things to say about weed, including a person and dramatic you turn. he is with me next. of store management started ast hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can use walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it, or be an engineer, helping walmart conserve energy. even today, when our store does well, i earn quarterly bonuses. when people look at me, i hope they see someone working their way up. vo: opportunity, that's the real walmart.
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people are lighting up all over the country. they call it the green rush. marijuana has moved out of the back alleys and into the open. >> happy cannabis. >> in some states it's legal to grow, to sell, to smoke and marijuana could be legized in a city near you. so easy to get, and many think so harmless. but when the smoke clears, is marijuana bad for you? or could pot actually be good for you? >> a take from dr. sanjay gup gupta's movie. more and more americans using it. washington d.c. opened up the first medical marijuana dispen scary and dr. sanjay gupta joins
me. welcome to you. >> thanks for having me. >> you've been looking at this for a year and in 2009 you wrote a "time magazine" article why i vote no on pot. you changed your mind? >> i have. as part of, you know, my thinking, i have apologized for some of the earlier reporting because i think, you know, we've been terribly amiss led for par of the time and i did part of the misleading. if you look at the pipes in the united states about marijuana, the vast majority are harm. we fund studies on harm and not benefit as much so it gives a distorted picture. i didn't look far enough and deep enough and labs in other countries doing research and listen to patients that said not only does marijuana work for me, it's the only thing that works for me. i took the dea at their word when they said it's schedule one substance and has no medical applications. there was no scientific basis
for them to say that. >> so when new york mayor bloomberg said marijuana is the greatest hoex of all time, what do you say? >> i'm surprised. i follow a lot of comments quite closely and listen to comments and as part of the same comments, he said the poet tan see has gone up, that is true. i urge him to the look at the scientific papers. the science is there. this isn't in the realm of conjecture. this was a drug used for thousands of years. >> in your documentary, you get into the effects of medical marijuana which could be quite instant and dramatic. >> it really can. it works and it can work quickly. let me just show you. >> i always have -- >> reporter: meet 19-year-old chaz moore that uses different
strains of marijuana, many high in cbd to treat his rare disorder of the diaphragm. >> my abs will lock up. >> reporter: that's why he's talking this way, almost speaking in hiccups like he can't catch his breath. this fluttering here, it's annoying but becomes painful quickly i imagine. >> yeah, after like 15, 20 minutes, this is where i can start to really feel it. >> reporter: he's about to show me how the marijuana works. he's been convulsioning now for seven minutes. how quickly do you expect it to work? >> within like the first five minutes. and i'm done. >> that's it. >> that's it. >> it was actually less than a minute. depending on the attack in the day. >> i mean, that is pretty extraordinary. >> he was on so many different
medications, piers, a table full of meds that doctors precybered for him including valium, they didn't work. it's clear if you look for it. >> let's take a short break and we'll bring in howard samuels, the ceo of the hills treatment. you and he have clashed horns before. we'll do it again after the break and he does not agree with you and he'll be forceful about it. after the break. right now, 7 years of music is being streamed.
the medical marijuana continue ver controversy rages on in america. should it be legal or not? joining us is dr. sanjay gupta and howard samuels. we spoke before about this. you feel very strongly from your own experiences as a personal addict and treating other addicts that it's a real gateway drug, marijuana and we should not be encouraging it to be legaliz legalized. >> well, absolutely. i mean, i think that the doctor has a very good point that for medical purposes, marijuana can be very, very useful. but you have to understand, the vast majority of people that use weed use it to get loaded. they use it to get high. and look, i'm not here to say
that it's, you know, worse than alcohol. of course, it's not worse than alcohol but why in the world would we legalize another drug so the nation's youth have another substance to abuse and medicate their feelings with? you know, this is to me, the issue. we don't want to go from one extreme reefer madness, which we know is a total exaggeration, but we don't want to go to the other extreme where we legalize this drug and endanger so many young people. we want to find a healthy balance. >> let me throw that point well made quite reasoned. sanjay? >> legitimate patients have use for it not only as a medication but the only medication for their sufferings and as the doctor says that people want to get loaded or get high. that's true -- >> if it's no more harmful than
alcohol or tobacco, why shouldn't it be legalized? isn't there inconsistency? >> i think so. let me take ate step further, i think it's irresponsible for the medical community to offer this. the pills for pain, vicodin, you name it, every 19 minutes in this country, piers, in the united states someone dies of an accidental prescription drug overdose. this is no joke. every 19 minutes. as we investigate, i couldn't find one case of someone dying of a marijuana overdose. for some situations like neuro path thick pain, sometimes -- >> i've known someone with chance there used it and had huge beneficial effects. my point howard samuels, i'll make a shocking revelation here. i tried cannabis when i was a younger lad and also had to have
vicodin when i broke some ribs falling off embarrassingly, a segway in california but it was the vicodin which i was prescribed by my doctor that gave me a massively higher high than the cannabis ever did and i couldn't see the logic between making the vicodin a legally prescribed drug and making can basketball this demonized drug. explain the difference. >> i have to agree with you. i have no disagreement with that. i don't have an issue with marijuana being used for certain pipe things. of course it's safer than vicodin. i had patients die off vicodin. i've never had anybody die off marijuana, but i have had people come to me hundreds of people that i've had to treat that have addiction to marijuana that have serious emotional side effects as a result of that. so i think the issue here is, you know, being able to
decriminalize marijuana -- >> let me ask you -- >> then it's safe and it's not -- >> i think you're suffering from position from the last time. the logical extension of your argument is we should ban all sorts of prescription drugs, probably alcohol as well and tobacco. they should be banned as well as cannabis because that's the logical key you're arguing. >> no, no, i never -- and i'm sorry if i mis -- if you misunderstood me. that all these drugs do have a place, the problem is that we don't have a medical restriction that these drugs are all too open on the market for abuse. okay? marijuana needs to be a controlled substance, not legalized where we have commercials and the corporations are talking about which drug to get loaded on, marijuana this, marijuana that. >> okay. >> that's what i'm talking
about. >> okay. let me -- let me go to sanjay. >> we have to come up with a different concept other than legalize or not. >> let me go back to sanjay. i've tried cannabis why was younger. have you? >> i have. >> what effect did it have compared to drinking alcohol or whatever? >> it was awhile ago i tried this. i didn't particularly car for it. it made me anxious and it wasn't a very pleasant feeling, i think. i talked to a lot of people who had similar sort of experiences but from a medicinal stand point, the idea it can provide something that's not provided, the doctor says you will see ads for it that it's over the counter that people can buy. it's listed as the most dangerous substance -- >> which is ridiculous. >> it's -- the addiction is possibly real, about 9% put it
in context and cocaine is 20%, less dangerous than marijuana, alcohol has a higher rate of addiction. smoking 30% and that leads to for more deaths than marijuana. so it's -- i just don't quite understand the moral equivalence the doctor is making here. >> piers, always good to talk to you -- final word to you. >> i'm not saying marijuana is more dangerous than cocaine, of course it's not. you know. >> but the u.s. government is saying that. >> i am saying that no, marijuana should not be legalized because it is harmful to the emotional state of people having long-term exposure to it. i've seen that and anybody in the treatment field will tell you the same thing. >> howard samuels, let me jump in. let me jump in. isn't that also, true, though of so many other thing sns isn't it true of alcohol, tobacco, vicodin, everything else is that you will have a percentage of people -- >> question --
>> but here is the point sanjay -- >> it's not to legalize it -- >> right -- >> we're doing the same thing. we're giving more people an opportunity to get loaded. why do we want to support that? >> okay. last word to you, sanjay. >> i'm not sure i follow the doctor's arguments here. it's a medicine not given a fair shake for 70 years in this country. it can treat things that other medicines that exist far more dangerous and lead to for more deaths cannot treat. it's bizarre and inhumane to the patients who can't get this treatment. i met patients in colorado who can get treatment but never leave their state. it's ridiculous. the doctor, i think, maybe he would agree with me, maybe he won't, i'm not sure his position but it's irresponsible for the medical community not to have this as an option. i have children.
i don't want them to get loaded on this, like he said. we should not take marijuana off the table as an option here. >> sanjay -- >> i totally agree with you but we shouldn't legalize it to let ore children get loaded -- >> you made your point loudly and clearly. it will carry on raging because americans are talking about this up and down the country and more and more states are legalizing it for medicine reasons. weed this sunday at 8:00 p.m. next, christine quinn could be the first female mayor. what everyone thinks of her opponent anthony weiner and we'll hear from her next. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing.
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welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> you've come out today, and we're going to dwell slightly on anthony weiner. for those that couldn't pick up what he was saying, mr. mcdonald said don't put your hands on me ever again. weiner said, what is going to happen, tough guy? then he called him grandpa at an aarp meeting. not the most sensible thing. >> when you're speaking to seniors, you want to do it in a respectful way and grateful way. but i think the issue is, we want in the 34 days we have left in this primary to be talking about the issues that matter to new yorkers, and for me, my record of delivering on those
issues. so i'm happy to have sandra with me, a woman who stood up to congress and said the health care needs of families and women matter. in my time in office, i've passed legislation requiring that every sexual assault and rape victim in new york city, when they go to a hospital now, they've offered emergency contraception because of what i've done, and also we have tight laws protecting women trying to do to reproductive health clinics in new york because of what i've done. that's what i want to talk to new yorkers about. >> sandra, that's all very well, but she can't offer women what anthony weiner can offer women with his cell phone. i'm being facetious, of course, but should he still be in the house? you have a guy that's been sexting all these women, should
he still be campaigning against this woman that you have supported today? >> i think whether or not he is isn't the question. what's clear is he doesn't have the judgment to be the mayor of new york. what's clear is that turning the campaign into this kind of circus has made it very clear to voters what kind of choice they have to make. they have a candidate who has a real record of accomplishment, who has delivered $47 million in funding for the infant mortality initiative, as christine said, standing up for women's access to reproductive health care. >> but let me jump in with you. you have talked to me honestly before about your own battles with addiction, with alcohol and so on. he's claiming, anthony weiner, this is a form of addiction and he's now come to terms with it and dealt with it. as an addict yourself, do you have any sympathy, or is it all bunk? >> anthony weiner is asking new yorkers for a second chance --
>> he's had the second chance. he's on to the third chance. >> fair enough. he's shop us a pattern of reckless behavior and an inability to tell the truth. being the mayor of new york, we've all made mistakes and deserve forgiveness. >> third chance? >> this is a serious job. we have 8.4 million people who need a mayor who is serious, focused and adult. let's set aside the sexting scandal. when anthony weiner was in congress, 12 years, he passed one bill at the request of a campaign donor. juxtapose that to what i've done, making sure that the scam of crisis pregnancy centers was uncovered and stopped in our city, this is a record of delivering for families that's
real and has helped our city and it's a record that not just anthony, no one else running for mayor this year can touch. >> is it true when his latest discretions came to light that you did a conga around the room. >> she was dancing around a room the other night. >> you know, this is serious. we have unemployment that needs to be addressed. >> is he trivializing the whole campaign now, to be -- what do you think? you're a voter. is he trivializing the whole battle to become this great mayor of a great city like new york following the great michael bloomberg? is he trivializing it by staying in the race, given all that's been going on? >> when you take on a position like mayor of new york, you're a role model in one respect or another. and i don't think that mr. weiner is the kind of role model new yorkers are looking for. by contrast, we have a chance to have the first woman mayor.
we were campaigning throughout new york today and there were young girls coming up, wanting to have their photo taken. she's been a role model for years and electing the first female mayor will send a strong message. >> your chances have got significantly better with anthony weiner's latest mishap. >> i felt good about my chances from day one. and the truth is, in elections like this, what matters is what you've done. because the only way people know what you sere going to do is what you have done for them. and no one else, not anthony weiner or anyone else can tell you they grew high tech and manufacturing jobs in this city during the recession. i did. >> more importantly, we're in new york, a-rod. do you think, as i do, he's one of the great cheats in sporting history and should be kicked out of baseball? >> disgraceful.
it's a disgrace and he shouldn't have been on the field this week. i don't know why the yankees played him. they should not have played him. and i'm sick of seeing him on the front page of the newspaper. >> in that case, i'm voting for you. that's all for us tonight. "our nixon" starts in a few moments. lease. [ garth ] bjorn's small business earns double miles on every purchase every day. produce delivery. [ bjorn ] just put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? ahh, oh! [ garth ] great businesses deserve unlimited rewards. here's your wake up call. [ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one and earn unlimited rewards. choose double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase every day. what's in your wallet? [ crows ] now where's the snooze button? [ male announcer ] it's a golden opportunity to discover a hybrid from the luxury car company that understands that one type of hybrid isn't right for everyone. come to the lexus golden opportunity sales event